Deadlit - conventional ali sumo?

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Zato sem začel sumo + ker mi bolj paše

ko smo že glih pri deadliftu, kaj pa konvencionalni deadlift v touch and go izvedbi? kakšno je vaše mnenje.

jaz menim, če touch res bolj touch in ne zabijanje( )v tla, ne vidim negativne stvari v sami izvedbi. je pa res, da je potrebno imeti tehniko res na zelo dobrem nivoju, ker je verjetnost da ti tehnika razpade, večja. je pa neverjeten overload na celo telo, ker je potrebno spuščat bolj kontrolirano, če nočeš zabijanja.

Tudi jaz mislim, da je v določenih primerih in izvedbi smiselen! V kaka obdobja hipertrofije/baze bi ga z veseljem vključil.

Po mojih izkušnjah, se lahko zgodi, če delaš samo touch and go, da ta preseže navaden deadlift. Naenkrat ne moreš več odlepiti uteži, za katere bi pričakoval da jih bi moral, od tal. Tako da vedno navaden deadlift na 1. mestu.

jap. tu enostavno ne moreš it po kankulaciji. npr. dvignem 250x5 v dobri T&G izvedbi, moj max je 290-295. bolj realno bo med 270-275. pa kak počep bo dobrodošel v trening planu verjetno dejansko rabiš več tonaže za isti rezultat je samo časovno kako napreduješ. ali boljše napreduješ s pauzo ali s T&G. najverjetneje relativno.

ker zanimivo je npr. Magnusson, Leeman prisegata na T&G. seveda pa obstaja tudi drugi tabor, tako da zopet pridemo na začetek, da je dejansko relativno

*1015lbs deadlift- Benedikt Magnusson; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4jO21-a2W0 btw, hitrost in leg drive!!!

*George Leeman - 906lb deadlift; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxFtqA9jo1I zopet lepa hitrost in leg drive!

*in njegovo mnenje, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PSFYxsSRk

-skratka zadeva lahko deluje!

T&G torej verjetno pomaga pri zaklepu ki je najtežji del pri conventional dl. Conventional torej TG da, pri sumotu pa manj uporabno?

The other thing I notice about guys who use straps, is that they like to do a lot of touch n go reps. That's fine. Is it "cheating"? I guess that depends on what you call cheating. As far as I know there is nothing illegal about doing this in a gym. I do think it inflates a guys ability in that a strapped up deadlift for touch n go reps is going to yield a greater number of reps than no straps with dead stop reps.

Here is the rub there though. Some guys do gain in their pull from touch n go, and some don't. In fact I see some guys pulling damn near their max for reps when they throw on the straps and go touch n go. The problem is, if that is NOT building your deadlift when you have to pull without the straps then ditch the straps and the touch n go bullshit.

It's not that touch n go is bad, it's that it can be misleading for the lifter. You need to be honest with yourself about whether or not it's improving your pull, or if it's just improving your "strapped up touch n go reps" style deadlift. If your max pull is 530 and you go from pulling 475x5 to 500x5 strapped up touch n go, but you are still pulling 530......it didn't work. It's simply that you got better from a mechanical standpoint at doing that kind of movement. Throw it out if that is the case. If your regular pull rises along with it, keep it in. This isn't much different than a guy getting better at doing board humpers but his actual bench press doesn't improve.

It's that simple.

Rubish o TNG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0LDny07r8I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBLmNP0XWOE

Urban; po moje pri sumo nima takega efekta kot pri Conventional.

Boštjan; sej v končni fazi niti ni pomembno koliko ponovitev narediš z neko težo. kot prikaz in test maksimalne moči je edino kar šteje, 1rm

"If your max pull is 530 and you go from pulling 475x5 to 500x5 strapped up touch n go, but you are still pulling 530......it didn't work." -haha, ok to vsak bedak ve, da ob isti maksimalni moči(1rm), boš s T&G naredil več ponovitev. no vsaj mogo bi jih sformiraš 530x5, pa bo zagotovo šou tudi max gor

Če nisi crossfit nimaš razloga za T&G.

Jaz gledam na to kot na ene vrste RDL. Druga vaja za druge cilje.