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Moje priprave na tekme jeseni 2012

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David Brunšek

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Re: Moje priprave na tekme jeseni 2012

Odgovor12 Nov 2012, 23:25

Hvala vsem! :) Se bom potrudil, da še večkrat napišem kaj podobnega. ;)

Kami napisal/-a:V primeru, da bi ljudje znali malo bol kriticno razmisljati bi lahko ovrgli 70% bullshita pri fitnessu / bodybuildingu brez, da bi vedno poznali vse znanstvene razlage odzadaj.

Se strinjam!
Težava, ki nas jo večina ima je, da gledamo na stvari zelo ozko. Če nekomu profesor pove, naj bo kritičen, bo to jemal kot kritičnost pri presojanju študijskega gradiva. Če nekdo prebere enak nasvet v knjigi o prehrani, bo kritičen pri dojemanju marketinga diet. Malo pa je takih kot si ti, ki so uspeli vsa področja povezati. No, forumašem gre to kar dobro od rok, čeprav je težka naloga! 8-) :)
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David Brunšek

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Re: Moje priprave na tekme jeseni 2012

Odgovor12 Nov 2012, 23:35

Mimogrede še današnji trening:

Sprednji počep
1×117,5 kg (DM)
3×2×105 kg

Clean
Učenje tehnike: stopnjevanje second pull + second pull in počep + second pull in počep z začetkom pod koleni + full clean. Najprej prazna palica, nato 40 kg.

Bench Press
1×115 kg (DM)
3×2×105 kg
Hitrost pri tem dvigu je bila še na 100% in z 2-sekundno pavzo na prsih. Tako da naslednjič kakšnih 125 ne uide. :)


Sprednjega počepa nisem delal celotni drugi del priprav na tekmo, tako da sem izgubil veliko gibljivosti v ramenih. Clean položaj, kjer palica počiva pred vratom na ramenih mi je tako trenutno malo neprijeten in posledično tudi naloga ne morem izvesti najbolje. AMPAK težavo bom rešil 1, 2, 3. ;) Danes pred treningom že 35 minut intenzivnega dela na tem področju (raztezanje, masaža ...).
Učenje oly dvigov napreduje dobro, že zdaj pa vidim, da bom imel verjetno snatch raje kot c&j. :)
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Odgovor13 Nov 2012, 08:16

Kami napisal/-a:V primeru, da bi ljudje znali malo bol kriticno razmisljati bi lahko ovrgli 70% bullshita pri fitnessu / bodybuildingu brez, da bi vedno poznali vse znanstvene razlage odzadaj.


This!

In pa upoštevali pomen individualnosti in pomanjkljivosti generičnih nasvetov.

Znanje, ki ga imata npr. David in Jure ni potrebno vsakemu, ki želi doseči napredek v fitnesu (s tem mislim, da se ne rabi vsak poglabljati v to področje, če tega ne želi oz. ima druga dominantna interesna področja, pa bi lahko vseeno dosegel zelo soliden napredek, če bi znal vse informacije, ki jih dobi z različnih virov, kritično ovrednotiti).
Cowards never start. The weak never finish. Winners never quit.

Kami

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Odgovor13 Nov 2012, 08:31

David Brunšek napisal/-a:Hvala vsem! :) Se bom potrudil, da še večkrat napišem kaj podobnega. ;)

Kami napisal/-a:V primeru, da bi ljudje znali malo bol kriticno razmisljati bi lahko ovrgli 70% bullshita pri fitnessu / bodybuildingu brez, da bi vedno poznali vse znanstvene razlage odzadaj.

Se strinjam!
Težava, ki nas jo večina ima je, da gledamo na stvari zelo ozko. Če nekomu profesor pove, naj bo kritičen, bo to jemal kot kritičnost pri presojanju študijskega gradiva. Če nekdo prebere enak nasvet v knjigi o prehrani, bo kritičen pri dojemanju marketinga diet. Malo pa je takih kot si ti, ki so uspeli vsa področja povezati. No, forumašem gre to kar dobro od rok, čeprav je težka naloga! 8-) :)


Ko smo ze pri tem - je mozno, da ta clanek tudi prevedes v anglescino?

Mislim, da tudi v anglescini manjka vec taksnega materiala :)
michelangelo napisal/-a:preveč je lih prou :D
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Re: Moje priprave na tekme jeseni 2012

Odgovor13 Nov 2012, 08:58

Kami napisal/-a:Ko smo ze pri tem - je mozno, da ta clanek tudi prevedes v anglescino?

Mislim, da tudi v anglescini manjka vec taksnega materiala :)


Instant sollution for your every goal

DOES NOT EXIST

As cruel as it may sound there is no magic pill, incredibly efficient program, revolutionary approach and other BS are exactly that, BS. There you have it. The ugliest sentence in the history of my blog. Yes, I to hope I won't have to write something similar again.
8-) You mean like this?
D.B. če želiš, lahko prevedem tvoj zapis.
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Odgovor13 Nov 2012, 10:47

No ja.. sem ga kar prevedel ;).

Instant sollution for your every goal

DOES NOT EXIST

As cruel as it may sound there is no magic pill, incredibly efficient program, revolutionary approach and other BS are exactly that, BS. There you have it. The ugliest sentence in the history of my blog. Yes, I to hope I won't have to write something similar again.

Why such anger?
"Season" is in full spread. Shorter and colder days, less parties, preparations for next summer. These are reason that bring young and elderly to gyms.
It's true that percentage of people who want to compete or have their training as #1 on their priorities list is very low comapared to those who train for the fun of it and recreation.
I noticed that in both groups there are more and more instanst sullution seekers.

In last two months I came accross these types of questions countless times. I say questions can never be dumb and the aren't. It only takes a more complicated answer which the persons asking them do not like or want to hear.
Some examples:
"How many exercises should I do for chest workout?"
"Which whey is best and how much should I drink?"
"What should I eat for definition?"
"Are choco puffs OK for breakfast?"

It's hard to give a universal answer to these questions like "yes/no/this and that" if I don't know the background. Some things can be ideal in certain situations, some completely wrong. Model sollutions sadly suck.

When insted of giving them an answer I start asking questions like "How often do you workout? What's the intensity of your workouts?, What are your other activites in life?, What's your goal?, How's your form at exercises?, ..." I often
find out that the entire routine that person uses to train is not optimal. That's sad because many would look even better then they do with a right approach.

The problem is not in individuals who want a program "that works", "best diet" or best "supplement". It's no one's fault for that kind of thinking. It's the system's fault which literaly forced us into this kind of thinking.
Marketing and industry. And it bugs me when someone is insulting people with less fitness knowledge then he or she has. Has anyone asked himself what kind of "bro's" do we turn out to be in a field we're not familiar with?
Eg. IT, medicine, gambling, snooker, painting fences, ...? Most ask questions to leaarn and should be applauded for that.

The right approach!
If I tell you what the wrong approach is like I It's only fair that I tell you the right approach. For those who have ever asked yourself similar questions described above, this is an excellent opprotunity to find out how you can answer them yourselves.
Isn't that great? One topic at a time, so let's start with workouts.

Workouts:
You can find answers on proper training from a number of sources. Forums are definitely a prefered choice of weight lifting enthusiasts.
- How to interprate advice you get on forums?
Carefull! Eventhough someone's anonymous post on a forum is just that - post and one person's view - it has a first glance more "value" then neigbour's advice. Do a good background check of your sources and follow the next advice ->

To create an efficient workout routine you have to have a complete knowledge of some physiological, mechanical, biochemical and other processes in our bodies. There are two ways to learn this. 1) Enroll into College, where you will
study this topic. 2) Read literature. There is a lot of good literature to be found on Amazon and a search in their database can be very fruitfull. Don't read books titled "Just 30 days to a fit look." Grab a real book or. study material
not marketing products. Grab books like: Practical Programming, Starting Strength, Supertraining, Periodization, etc. This way your undestanding of what's written on forums will be greater.

I know that to many people, workouts are only for relaxation and recreation. In the same situation I wouldn't invest 50% of my time into education about training. Same goes for those with high ambitions and don't have time to educate themselves.
If you fit the description I recommend you focus on just one verified training program (as a template to be customised to your needs). This is the best "instant anwser" I can offer you. Even here you will have to make many adaptations
and smart planning. Study Starting Strength, Texas Method, 5/3/1, Westside Barbell … just study one program and customize it to your needs as authors advise. And don't choose a program that promisses 5kg muscle gain in one month. That one sucks.

Sollutions that require less of your effort is a coach. I won't call them trainers as the title lost it's value with all the so-called trainers. Bare in mind that every coach/trainer will demand your cooperation. He/she will
regulary control your progress and change your diet/workout plans accordingly. There is no instant soullution. The more money you have the closer you can get but it's still far from being instant.

Food and supplements

Food is even more individual siuted then training which can only mean one thing. Even less instant sollution. The first words that come to mind with food beginning with "i" is "INSTANT DISASTER". I will write more on this topic in a couple of days.
Until then a few short words about supplements.
Fish Oil, Vitamin-C, Zink, Vitamin-D in winter, if money is not a problem Creatine and if you lack protein Whey is all you need. Everything else is just money thrown away.
http://missionsuperbody-sl.blogspot.com/ | A GOAL without a PLAN is only a WISH | MFP -> http://goo.gl/KUO0QW | Never look down on anybody unless your helping them up, as there may be a day when you are the one looking UP!

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Re: Moje priprave na tekme jeseni 2012

Odgovor13 Nov 2012, 11:22

Alex, ti si pa pravi multipraktik (fitneser, kuhar, družinski človek, prevajalec, sprehajalec psov) :) NI da ni :)

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Re: Moje priprave na tekme jeseni 2012

Odgovor13 Nov 2012, 11:28

alexjug napisal/-a:No ja.. sem ga kar prevedel ;).

Instant sollution for your every goal

DOES NOT EXIST

As cruel as it may sound there is no magic pill, incredibly efficient program, revolutionary approach and other BS are exactly that, BS. There you have it. The ugliest sentence in the history of my blog. Yes, I to hope I won't ...


Celega nisem bral, ampak zato ne vem ali je pravilno. Booo, vsaj sliši se ne, no. Lahko pa da tudi je.
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Re: Moje priprave na tekme jeseni 2012

Odgovor13 Nov 2012, 11:37

@Merika.. pri 35 že nabereš kakšno znanje in izkušnjo ;) in si pogosto želiš, da bi imel vse to že pred 15. leti ;). lol.

Trust me climber.. lahko napišeš "I also hope ...". "I to hope ..." je pravilno. S tem, da v slednji toliko bolj poudariš kar želiš povedati.
http://missionsuperbody-sl.blogspot.com/ | A GOAL without a PLAN is only a WISH | MFP -> http://goo.gl/KUO0QW | Never look down on anybody unless your helping them up, as there may be a day when you are the one looking UP!
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Odgovor13 Nov 2012, 13:35

alexjug napisal/-a:@Merika.. pri 35 že nabereš kakšno znanje in izkušnjo ;) in si pogosto želiš, da bi imel vse to že pred 15. leti ;). lol.

Trust me climber.. lahko napišeš "I also hope ...". "I to hope ..." je pravilno. S tem, da v slednji toliko bolj poudariš kar želiš povedati.


Potem je: "I, too, hope..."
I am the man responsible for who I am. When I look in the mirror each day, I stare my creator in the eyes.
I am responsible for what I have and will become, I am accountable for what I will or will not accomplish.
I believe in myself, I bow to no man.
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